Sometimes over the years I have read the question from younger women, “Where are the older, godly, Titus 2 women?”
I’ve also read many sentiments from younger women, especially younger moms, that they don’t want anyone to criticize them or tell them they should be doing anything differently. They just want to be encouraged and told they’re doing a good job.
Granted, older women have a reputation for being critical. We should take great pains to affirm and encourage younger women. We shouldn’t be talking behind our hands to our friends about the younger generation (or anyone else). We need to be open to the fact that many things about Christian womanhood can look different for different people and situations and not insist that everything should be done like we did it 20-40 years ago.
On the other hand, though, is mentoring just about affirmation? Does a classroom teacher or athletic coach or job supervisor only affirm and encourage? Do they not sometimes correct and instruct?
Once I looked up the Greek word translated “teach” in the famous Titus 2 passage about older and younger women. It’s the only time this particular word is used in the NT, and, according to BibleStudyTools.com, it means:
1. restore one to his senses
2. to moderate, control, curb, disciple
3. to hold one to his duty
4. to admonish, to exhort earnestly
Are we actually looking for that kind of interaction with older women?
I know it’s hard sometimes when you get conflicting or thoughtless or inappropriate or “out of touch” advice. Here are some thoughts:
1. Manage your expectations. No one on the planet, even a wise, godly older woman, is going to hit the nail on the head every time. We’re all sinners; we won’t always get it right; we won’t always be available when we should be. We want to be the ideal older woman, but we’ll fail. Your mentors won’t be gurus or fairy godmothers: they’ll be very human. But that’s even better, because we can learn from God’s grace in their mistakes as well as their shining moments.
2. Even though God wants these kinds of relationships, don’t seek them before Him. Seek Him first for any problem, and ask Him to direct you to whom to talk to if that is His will.
3. Attribute the best motives. Once in the mall with our young baby in a stroller, one older lady from our church stopped us and told us he needed to be covered up more so he didn’t get a chill. Just a few minutes later, another older lady from our church told us to uncover him so he wouldn’t get hot and sweaty. It’s easy to want to roll our eyes behind people’s backs sometimes, but tell yourself that they mean well and at least showed an interest.
4. Glean. Sometimes you’ll get different opinions from different older women whom you respect and who both love the Lord. This was hard for me as a young mom until I hit upon the idea of gleaning – kindly listening and then taking from their advice what would best work for our family and leaving the rest.
5. Observe. In every stage and season of my life, God has placed ladies just ahead of me that I have learned much from just by observing.
6. Interact with older ladies, whether going to ladies’ meetings, talking with them at baby showers, asking them over for lunch or dinner, etc. Sometimes older women feel unwanted by the younger: let them know that you do want to know them. Sometimes you can glean a lot just by being around them.
7. You may need to take the initiative and go to an older woman whose advice you would like to receive. Some are reticent because they don’t know how to mentor or they are afraid of offending. Feel free to ask questions. They’re much more willing to share when they know their thoughts are wanted.
8. Don’t be offended. I read a post years ago about a woman who was rebuked in a harsh way by an older lady over a modesty issue. To her credit, the younger woman took it to the Lord and came to believe that the woman was right, even though the woman had gone about it in a totally wrong way. That doesn’t excuse the older woman, but we’re also not excused from something God might be trying to tell us through an imperfect vessel.
9. Don’t be oversensitive. Don’t mistake advice or a suggestion as criticism. Some years ago I was with a younger lady who had just received a gift of a parenting book after her child was born. This was pretty common when I was a young mom, and we welcomed it – we knew we needed all the help we could get. I knew the giver, and she had discussed this book with me once and mentioned that she liked to give it to new moms because it had been such a help to her. But this new mom was hurt, interpreting the gift as an indication that the giver thought she wasn’t going to be a good parent. Likewise, I’ve heard women sound hurt when someone tells them, “You have your hands full!” and take it as a jab for having an active child or more than one child. More often than not it is said by someone who has also had their hands full parenting in the past and who know what younger parents are going through.
10. Don’t assume that you know the motives behind what another woman is saying. Ask questions to clarify if need be.
It’s hard for older women to know how to go about mentoring unless we’re in an actual position of authority (parent, Sunday School teacher, pastor’s wife). Even then it can be touchy. For most of us, in our everyday interactions it wouldn’t go over well to just stop a younger women in her tracks and start “teaching” her. But here are a few considerations:
1. Pray. If there is someone on your heart, pray much before approaching her, pray much about how to approach her, pray much about whether to approach her at all. If someone asks you a question on the spot, send up a quick prayer for wisdom and possibly even ask for time to think and pray about their question and get back to them.
2. It’s generally best not to offer advice unless asked.
3. Even when offering advice, we need to couch it in suggestive rather than authoritarian tones. I often say, “You might think about…” or “Something that helps me is…” rather than “You ought to…”
4. Don’t contradict a woman’s doctor or pediatrician unless a moral issue is involved. Obviously if a woman’s doctor is advocating abortion, we’d want to try to help her see another view. But in just the little everyday parts of child care, I was amazed at how much had changed between what I was taught as a young mother and what my daughter-in-law was instructed to do with my grandson. It’s probably best never to use the phrase, “Back in MY day…”
5. Don’t contradict a woman’s husband unless there are moral, sinful, or abusive issues. If he wants her to work while she wants to stay home, pray with her, possibly suggest ways she can approach him about it, but don’t incite rebellion.
6. Don’t major on the minors. There are so many divisive issues among women: getting married or remaining single; working vs. staying at home; breastfeeding or bottle feeding; home school vs. public school vs. private school, whether to use a pacifier or not, and on and on and on. Most of these are secondary issues that the Bible does not give specific commands or instruction about. You may have specific principles you’ve drawn after much study in the Word. That’s as it should be. “Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind” (Romans 14:5). The whole tenor of Romans 14 is that believers can have differing opinions about even such things as what days to celebrate and what’s permissible to eat without judging each other or having divisive arguments. Take a stand where the Bible does but allow for differences where the Bible does.
7. It’s best to mentor in the context of relationship. Don’t just look at someone as a “project.” Look at them as sisters or daughters in Christ. Have them over, develop a relationship, truly care about the other person. If some kind of advice or a different perspective is needed, it will go over better coming from a loving relationship.
8. Don’t be a busybody. Don’t overstep or go too far.
9. Don’t belittle.
10 Don’t assume. Sometimes when you see part of a situation, you may not understand the whole of it or what has lead up to it. One off reaction might be just one off reaction rather than characteristic of a whole personality. “Let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger” (James 1:19, ESV).
11. Be careful of your example. Some time ago I was at a table of women at a church event, and the oldest woman at the table started talking about things her husband did. It was all quite funny, but I cringed at the negativity couched in humor. Would he have thought it funny if he had been there? The other women may have chuckled in sympathy, but did they get an example of reverencing their husbands? I’m not saying we have to put on a front and pretend everything is perfect in our homes, but we can present godly ways to deal with conflicts. By contrast, once I was with an older woman at church as she and her husband were preparing for an event for a group they headed up. The woman came into the kitchen looking for something or trying to figure something out, and was not exactly rattled (like I would have been), but pressured in getting everything ready. Her husband came in at that moment with another issue. Her back was to him, and I saw her just close her eyes a moment and then gently answer him. She probably wasn’t even aware that I was there or had observed that moment, but it spoke volumes to me.
12. Don’t be afraid to share your mistakes and what you’ve learned from them.
13. Do encourage that God will give them strength and wisdom, that the “terrible twos” don’t last forever, that they can go through their children’s teen years with their relationship intact, that God is using them and will give them grace in every moment, to keep on instructing and disciplining their children even if it seems nothing is getting through.
14. “Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.” Ephesians 4:29, ESV.
I’m not saying that older woman should start looking for things to correct and advise on. Rather, I urge them to look for ways to encourage and help younger women. And I urge younger women to look for more than affirmation from older women. Pray over advice, filter it, discuss it with your husband.
Also, these truths apply to more than marriage and motherhood, but that’s my realm, so that’s where my examples come from. Obviously women who are single or who are in the workplace can apply these same principles.
How about you? Have you ever received advice from an older woman that was particularly helpful? What are some other ways older women and younger women can help each other?
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I think it is very important that we older women reach out to make relationships with younger women. I especially liked number 3: 3. Even when offering advice, we need to couch it in suggestive rather than authoritarian tones. I often say, “You might think about…” or “Something that helps me is…” rather than “You ought to…” thanks, Amy
I do think that there is a fine balance somewhere here. Older women (and I guess I am that) do have a lot of wisdom to impart. We’ve lived more life and we’ve know the Lord longer and been through things with His help. I’ve also had experience with older women who were a bit bossy – maybe giving advice that I really didn’t want. I’ve also had wonderful friendships with older women who imparted into me wonderful instruction and Godly wisdom. But they did it after I ask for advise or help. It’s tricky and I think this post is very timely. Thank you.
I found myself giggling a bit through this caught trying to decide if I rank in the category of older or younger and sadly, I believe I’ve graduated to the older category. You have some GREAT advice here, for both sides – if we want to call it sides. Most people offer advice with the best of intentions but not the best delivery. I believe it’s all about relationship. If I know someone cares, truly, I can take a lot of advice. If I know someone just wants to look smart or one-up, then it’s hurtful. If you haven’t affirmed, then don’t criticize. If you aren’t offering an easier/better/different option, then probably remain quiet. That’s my advice! Oh – there I go, offering advice! LOL
But it was very good advice you offered! 🙂 I know what you mean about feeling in between categories. Most of us probably fit both – we’re all older than someone and younger than others.
Interesting! I’ve never had a mentor or really known anybody older women who seemed interested in it.
I’m a believer in mentoring. I’ve been blessed by several female mentors throughout my journey. I’ve also learned that mentoring is reciprocal. When we are mentored, we tend to turn around and mentor others! Don’t hesitate to reach out if you ever need anything!
Such a helpful and practical post. I’m pinning so I can refer back to it. I had a mentor years ago who was such a blessing to me and I pray that as an older woman, I’ve been able to impact a few younger ladies.
This was such a great post and I truly learned so much. I think you made some wonderful teaching and encouraging points. The sign of a great mentor! 🙂
Thank you for sharing! Mentoring is so important to our faith walk. My mentoring experiences were encouraging and rewarding. My first mentor was a blessing from God. She saw something in me that I could not see. She was nurturing and supportive at a crucial time in my life.Today, there are many life coaches offering support.However, mentoring is relational, coaching is performance based. If anyone is ever in need of mentoring or wanting to learn more, please reach out. My research focus (and passion) is women mentoring!
I think true mentor-ship is coming along side of someone. Not just criticizing or affirming, but investing. It’s not about judgement so much as it is involvement. Teaching, encouraging, rebuking, all from a place of love and commitment. It doesn’t just say here’s what you need to do, but being an example of how to do that.
Such good advice here, Barbara. I feel like I’m the “older woman” at our church these days and I’m not sure I like it. ha. I often feel like the younger girls look at me like I wouldn’t be able to relate to them, even though I’ve lived through the things they’re now experiencing. So your words of wisdom are helpful. (And I need to quit saying, “Back in MY day…”) lol
These types of posts of yours are always so helpful! You are so thorough and really cover all the bases. I think so much of mentoring revolves around having a good relationship with an older (or younger) woman. As I read this, I immediately thought of one of my very dearest friends. She’s a woman my mom’s age, and we’ve been friends now for about 25 years (we worked together before I got married and had kids). So since we’ve been close already over the years, it’s easy for me to ask her advice, and take her advice too. I SO much value her counsel as someone who’s been through many things already that I haven’t. She’s very accepting, but always gives counsel when I ask (and I do, frequently). I wish every woman could have such a friendship with someone of another generation. It’s been so very valuable to me. I’ve wished I could find a younger woman who I could forge such a relationship with, but it can be hard to do. I’m praying that God could bring the right people into my life, and I know He can do that.
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