More on marriage and other womanly concerns

I meant to mention in yesterday’s post about loving husbands a resource someone shared with me. At the Revive Our Hearts site is a link for praying for your husband every day. It has a list of different aspects to pray for each day of the month.

Susan had a great post today about marriage.

I don’t know many Christian women bloggers who don’t read girltalk, but if you don’t, they have been having a series this week about dealing with PMS, postpartum depression, and menopause. It’s been very helpful.

Valentine treats and a session on how to love our husbands

Our February ladies’ meeting at church was last night, and last month I thought, being close to Valentine’s Day, we might explore the topic of how to love our husbands. Then today I thought I might share that with you as well.

Usually other ladies sign up to bring refreshments, but no one did for this month, and I have lots of heart-shaped treats on file, so I did this one. Along with some small sandwiches and a vegetable tray, I made

Valentine treats

Sweetheart Jamwiches from Southern Living magazine. This is one of only a few recipes I kept from the short time I was subscribed to them. Mine aren’t quite as neat as theirs — I was running behind and trying to get finished fast by the time I got to the end — but I still liked the way they turned out, and the ladies seemed to like them, too.

I also made Peanut Butter Kiss cookies, only substituting chocolate hearts instead of Hershey’s kisses.

 

Valentine treats

My original idea for the ladies meeting was to have a panel of 4 to 6 ladies who would answer questions from the others. What I found was that most of the ladies I asked were very reluctant, feeling they needed to still be learning rather than answering other people’s questions. That’s understandable in one way because we’re all sinners and none of us has this down perfectly: along with the rest of our sin nature, we have to wrestle with our basic tendency toward selfishness probably in our marriages more than anything else. But, as I tried to share with them, I’d much rather hear from someone as human as I am than someone who acts as though they have it all down pat.

Still, I only found three ladies who would agree to be on the panel, and one of them called less than two hours before the meeting to say she had a raging headache and couldn’t come. So I put another lady on the spot before the meeting started and asked her, and she graciously agreed.

Usually we have a speaker for our meetings. Twice before we had open discussion types of meetings: the first time was on the topic of personal devotions, and that went very well with a lot of people sharing struggles and solutions; the second time the topic was hospitality, and that didn’t go very well at all. I think that’s an area where many of us feel inadequate. So this time I wanted a panel so I wouldn’t be the only one up there answering questions!

I had told the ladies beforehand that, though they could ask questions from the floor, if they wanted to submit them ahead of time that would give the ladies on the panel a little more time to think about an answer. No one submitted anything ahead of time, so I came up with a list of questions I had heard, read, or had myself over the years to use kind of as a starting-off point, and I told the ladies if we veered from there or other questions came up along the way, that was fine. I also told them that anyone was free to ask questions or make comments and that I wanted this to be a sharing time for all of us.

I was originally going to just jot down various points or principles that were discussed through the night, but I decided I would use the questions that we used as a framework for the different aspects.

I started with Titus 2:3-5:

The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

I told them for our purposes that night I wasn’t going to dwell on who was younger, older, or “aged.” 🙂 We’re all older or younger than somebody. In fact, I was a little sad that some of the older older women didn’t come — they probably felt they didn’t “need” any instruction on this topic, but I think they would have benefited all of us with what they have learned over the years.

Anyway — on to the questions, and I will try to jot down as much as I can remember of the answers:

1. Several sources I have read indicate that the word for love in Titus 2 is the word for an affectionate type of love rather than agape love. As Christians we are all to love each other with agape love, which we can only do through His Spirit, but why do you think God wants us to teach each other that affectionate, brotherly kind of love rather than just commanding it as He commands men to love their wives?

Perhaps one reason is that we can so easily fall into “Martha mode” and get so busy serving and doing that we forget to just be affectionate. I know when I am super-busy, that’s the hardest time for me to respond in an affectionate manner, especially if I am interrupted.

I didn’t think of this last night, but earlier today I was thinking that most preaching we hear on a woman’s role in marriage deals with submission and obedience, and those are important aspects and one way we show our love to our husbands, but we can do both without any warmth or affection. Too, in that day of arranged marriages, many wives probably felt they were coming into a serious relationship with a stranger, and it would have been helpful for older women to encourage them in this way.

2. What are some ways that you show your husband that you love him?

This is something that would be different for each individual husband, but many mentioned just little thoughtful niceties that you’d know he’d like or things that he has responded well to in the past. One lady mentioned little notes in lunch boxes and other places. Another mentioned bringing him a glass of iced tea while he’s relaxing in the recliner. Another mentioned calling him at work during the day, not to report a problem, but just to say, “Hi, everything is going well; I just wanted to touch base and see how you were doing and tell you I love you.” One mentioned giving her husband her full attention when he is talking to her rather than being distracted. Another busy mother of 7 mentioned that, when her husband called to her at home, she had gotten into a habit of saying “Just a minute” or even “Is it important?” She got convicted about that and felt it would honor him to come when he called her and see what he wanted. She even confessed that to him, ad at first he just folded his arms like, “I’ll believe it when I see it!” So the next time he called her, she was so tempted to just call back, but she stopped what she was doing and ran to him to see what he wanted, and he just lit up.

Someone brought up the book The Five Love Languages and the idea that people perceive and receive love in different ways. More information about them is here.

3. What do you do if you disagreed with your husband about something? How do you know when to voice it and when to be silent and pray?

Many ladies said that, whatever you do, pray first. That will keep you from just reacting. Then if you do feel led to say something, the Lord will help you do so in a gracious manner.

A few emphasized to choose wisely in what you disagree about. If you’re always disagreeing on every little thing, then when something major comes along, it might not be taken seriously — it will sound like you just disagree out of habit or as a matter or course.

A few also said that they felt their husbands did want to know how they felt: they didn’t just want a marital equivalent of a yes man. But if we do voice disagreements, we need to do so graciously and not in a way that’s belittling. We also need to be careful not to assume or assign motives.

It was also brought up in couple of different ways that we shouldn’t assume they know how we feel. One lady brought up an example about how, when she was first married, her husband had a good friend who was with them all the time. She finally took her husband aside and told him she loved him and was glad to be married to him, but she almost felt she was married to this other guy, too. He just hadn’t realized how it seemed to her, and once she said something, he cut back on the time he spent with his friend.

A few other examples and questions came up on this point, and it was generally agreed that, if you’re going to discuss a serious disagreement, it’s best to choose a good time when there is not an tension or distraction, (one suggested making him a good meal first 🙂 ), and just being as gracious and kind about it as you can.

4. How do you maintain reverence for your husband, especially when he does or says something you don’t respect?

There were several thoughts here:

Remember that it is based on God’s command, not your husband’s performance.

Remember that he is only human: he is not going to be perfect. I read the quote I posted yesterday — I thought it was interesting that I found it in my files just in time for this meeting!

Colosians 3:12-14 was read:

Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

This wasn’t read, but a companion passage is Ephesians 4:1-3:

I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

One pastor used to say “forbearing” was just “good old-fashioned putting up with each other.” There has to be some of that in marriage: none of us will be perfect.

Another truth to apply is to “do unto others as you would have them do unto you” (based on Matthew 7:12). When we fall short and fail, how would we want our husbands to handle it? My husband very rarely says anything to me about my faults and failures, and the fact that he “puts up with me” in love is a rebuke to me and a help in my response to him.

One pointed out to focus on his strengths, not his weaknesses. Another reminded that we have to guard against bitterness and resentment in our own hearts.

There was much discussion on this point about praying about the matter and letting the Lord convict him.

5. How would you advise a young Christian wife who says that her husband does not take the lead spiritually in praying together or having devotions together?

Not much was said in this point except that you can’t force it. A couple of people brought out the principle of asking our own husbands spiritual or Scriptural questions rather than seeking them from someone else (I Cor. 14:35a: “And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home.”)

6. How do you carve out time for just the two of you?

Many emphasized that you have to make time for each other. A few mentioned a date night, with either getting a baby-sitter, or if finances are tight, swapping baby-sitting with another couple. One said that they only allow their children to watch videos or play computer games on Friday nights, and so they all look forward to that time and are “plugged in,” leaving the parents with some time for themselves. They had their restriction more for the benefit of their children, but it had the added benefit of creating some alone time for themselves as a couple.

7. What are some good books on the subject that you have read?

Already mentioned was The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman. A few others were:

The Ministry of Marriage by Jim Binney
The Power of a Praying Wife by Stormie Omartian
Ribbing Him Rightly by Beneth Peters Jones
Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus by John Grey
One was also mentioned by Elizabeth George, but the lady couldn’t remember the name: perhaps A Wife After God’s Own Heart?
An audio series called Making It Even Better by Wayne Van Gelderen, Jr.

There were a few other questions that I don’t remember much being discussed in answer, so I left them off here.

I know I didn’t quite capture the spirit of the meeting, but I think it was good over all. I enjoyed it and it brought out many things I had heard before but needed reminding of. Several ladies commented positively afterwards. One even suggested we cover this topic at least once a year. I didn’t record a lot of the specific questions or examples that came up because they weren’t meant for the general public.

I think it’s helpful to realize that no one has a perfect marriage, and even those who have near-perfect ones now had their struggles. One lady whose marriage seems great to me told me afterward that though things are great now, there was a time that, since she didn’t believe in divorce, she prayed that the Lord would just take her husband home, because she just didn’t feel she could continue to live like they were living. You’d never guess it now! Even reading missionary stories, where Elisabeth Elliot, Isobel Kuhn, and Rosalind Goforth shared some of their struggles, was helpful to me in knowing that such godly ladies were “of like passions” as we are.

Though this wasn’t brought out at the meeting, it was demonstrated that one thing we shouldn’t do is engage in husband-bashing to others, and I am happy to say that in all of the discussion I didn’t detect any of that.

Another point that I didn’t think to bring out was that we can only be and do what we ought with the Lord’s help and grace. I remember once during a family conference, our guest speaker, Dr. Wayne Van Gelderen, Sr., pointed out that all of the instructions concerning family relationships in Ephesians came after the command to be filled with the Spirit in Ephesians 5:18.

I know this wasn’t the most lyrically-written post, but I hope it was helpful.

What about you? How would you have answered some of these questions?

(P.S. — By the way, a couple of other interesting things happened at this meeting. Three times in my life I have had an optical migraine — the flashing squiggly zigzag lines in my vision. Only once has it gone on to nausea and a headache. Last night it started happing just at the end of the refreshments and before the actual meeting part. I was so distressed. I took a couple of aspirin and I asked the lady whom I called on to open in prayer to pray for that, and within 15 minutes it was gone — usually it takes about an hour in a quiet, darkened room. So I praise the Lord for that! One of the other ladies on the panel is prone to kidney stones and was having severe pain last night but felt she should come anyway. When I mentioned that another lady who was supposed to be on the panel called with a severe headache, this lady said it seemed like Satan was out to attack this meeting. I’m not one to see Satan behind every problem or obstacle, but I know he doesn’t want marriages [which were created by God] to succeed, so it may be. But I am glad God overcame many of those obstacles!)

Grace

“He who grows in grace remembers that he is but dust, and he therefore does not expect his fellow Christians to be anything more. He overlooks ten thousand of their faults, because he knows his God overlooks twenty thousand in his own case. He does not expect perfection in the creature, and, therefore, he is not disappointed when he does not find it.”

~ Charles Haddon Spurgeon, The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit: Sermons, p. 448

Depth of Mercy

Depth of mercy! Can there be
Mercy still reserved for me?
Can my God His wrath forbear,
Me, the chief of sinners, spare?

I have long withstood His grace,
Long provoked Him to His face,
Would not hearken to His calls,
Grieved Him by a thousand falls.

Jesus speaks, and pleads His blood!
He disarms the wrath of God;
Now my Father’s mercies move,
Justice lingers into love.

There for me the Savior stands,
Shows His wounds and spreads His hands.
God is love! I know, I feel;
Jesus weeps and loves me still.

Pity from Thine eye let fall,
By a look my soul recall;
Now the stone to flesh convert,
Cast a look, and break my heart.

Now incline me to repent,
Let me now my sins lament,
Now my foul revolt deplore,
Weep, believe, and sin no more.

~ Charles Wesley, 1740

Full version here

Non-fiction meme

Alice tagged me for a non-fiction meme. I’m always up for a good book meme!

I like and benefit from non-fiction, but I usually gravitate to fiction. There is just something about a story that is easier to get into and easier for its lessons to stick with me. Nevertheless, good non-fiction is highly valuable.

What issues/topic interests you most–non-fiction, i.e, cooking, knitting, stitching, there are infinite topics that have nothing to do with novels?

I like biographies, missionary stories, some history in story form rather than encyclopedia form, books dealing with Christian life and growth. I have a lot of Christian parenting on my shelves that I perused a lot when my kids were younger. I also love various craft books.

Would you like to review books concerning those?

Yes, and I have.

Would you like to be paid or do it as interest or hobby? Tell reasons for what ever you choose.

Well, if anyone wanted to pay me for it, I certainly wouldn’t turn them down! I have a few times gotten a free book in order to review it. But mostly I do it because I love to read and love to share what I am reading. I love to discuss what I have read with others who have read the same book. I have noticed, though, that when I have been reviewing a book for someone else, I feel a little more inclined just to say positive things, but I have to be honest: otherwise it’s just a commercial.

Would you recommend those to your friends and how?

Yes, I usually do recommend books I like here on my blog and by word of mouth to friends.

If you have already done something like this, link it to your post.

I don’t have a separate non-fiction link, but all of the books I’ve reviewed can be found here.

I decided to go through and list the non-fiction I’ve reviewed:Never Say Can’t by Jerry Ballard
Spirit of the Rainforest by Mark Ritchie
Shopping For Time was written by the authors of the girltalk blog, mom Carolyn Mahaney and daughters Nicole Mahaney Whitacre, Kristin Chesemore, and Janelle Bradshaw
Sometimes I Prefer to Fuss by Verda Peet
One Candle to Burn by Kay Washer
Dr. Phil’s Ultimate Weight Loss Solution by Dr. Phil McGraw
In the Presence of My Enemies and To Fly Again by Gracia Burnham
From Cannibalism to Christianity by Margaret Stringer
Finding Your Path by Mitch Raymer
Mountain Breezes: The Collected Poems of Amy Carmichael.
The Spouse in the House by Richard Armour
Queen of the Castle: 52 Weeks of Encouragement for the Uninspired, Domestically Challenged or Just Plain Tired Homemaker by Lynn Bowen Walker(not a review but an interview with the author)
John Paton by Benjamin Unseth

One of my first posts was a listing of favorite books. The non-fiction list is here. I haven’t reviewed them since I read them before starting my blog, but there are many I’d love to promote for others to read, so I might do that some time.

Though not fully reviewed, excerpts or parts of some books are mentioned here:

Second Mile People by Isobel Kuhn
Goforth of China by Rosalind Goforth
Another mention of Goforth of China
Rose From Brier by Amy Carmichael
Amy Carmichael of Dohnavur by Frank Houghton
Climbing by Rosalind Goforth

Please don’t forget to link back here or whoever tags you.

I’ll just tag whoever would like to do this. Let me know!

Country-Style Eggs

saturdaystirrings.jpgFiddleDeeDee at It Coulda’ Been Worse has started Saturday Stirrings where we can share favorite recipes and find new favorites. I hope you will join in!

This was in a cookbook that came with my microwave, oh, some 20-25 years ago. We’ve had two or three microwave ovens since then, and this recipe has worked fine in each. of course, microwave ovens vary, so the times might be different for you. We’ve used it as a “breakfast for dinner” recipe, but it would also work fine for breakfast.

Country-Style Eggs 

4 slices bacon
2 tablespoons butter or margarine
6 ounces frozen hash browns
1/4 cup chopped onion
1/4 cup chopped green pepper (optional)
6 eggs
1/4 cup milk
1/2 teaspoon salt
Dash pepper
1 cup (4 ounces) shredded mild cheddar cheese

Cook bacon according to microwave oven instructions; crumble and set aside.

Put margarine, potatoes, onions, and green pepper into an 8-inch round glass cake or pie dish. Cook uncovered in microwave oven 6 minutes on high or until vegetables are tender; stir once.

Mix eggs, milk, salt, and pepper. Flatten potato mixture and pour egg mixture over the top. Cover with plastic wrap. Cook in microwave oven 6-7 minutes at medium-high, or until egg mixture is almost set; stir once.

Sprinkle bacon and cheese over egg mixture, Heat uncovered 1 minute at medium-high, or until cheese just starts to melt.

Remove from oven and let stand 5 minutes, Cut into wedges to serve.

4-6 servings. 

I usually leave out the green peppers. I also usually use the “heat and eat” already cooked bacon since we don’t use bacon very much — I’d hate to have to wait on a dish like this to cook the bacon first. If I didn’t use that what I would probably do is get regular bacon and fry it all up at once, and then freeze it to use just a few pieces at a time.

I’ve also made a single serving of this, though I couldn’t give you exact measurements. I usually eat my breakfast after taking Jesse to school, and sometimes cereal just doesn’t appeal to me. This is a nice change even though I normally don’t like eggs scrambled in the microwave. I basically follow the same recipe, only I put just a few hash browns in a smaller dish with margarine and a sprinkle of minced onion, microwave for a minute or so, stir, and cook again until the potatoes are mostly done, then mix two eggs with a little milk, salt, and pepper and pour them over the potato mixture and microwave at medium-high for 45 seconds to a minute, stir, and then microwave again until mostly set. I often tear up a piece of ham lunch meat instead of the bacon when I do it this way and add that and a sprinkled of shredded cheddar cheese, microwave for about 20 seconds, then let it sit for a few minutes. Delicious! And nice when I need a heartier breakfast than usual.

Know and Tell Friday

(My Friday Show and Tell post is just below this one)

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To Know Him hosts Know and Tell Friday and asks this week:

Question 1
Did you eat candy this Valentine’s Day?

I actually didn’t. I did eat too many heart-shaped cupcakes, though. And I received candy from my husband and one son, so I will be having some in the days ahead.

Question 2
What is something you do to relax?

Read, watch TV, lie down and listen to music, play Boggle on the computer.

Question 3
(From Poole’s book) What is the best approach for resolving conflict?

I think first it’s best to pray about it to have the right attitude and perspective and to ask the Lord to show us what our part in the conflict may be. Then I think it’s best to approach the other person when you think they’re receptive — not when they’re distracted or upset. It’s best to come humbly, admitting and apologizing for our part, perhaps asking from clarity for the other person — so often conflict arises from misunderstanding. Then I think you just have to lay it out as clearly, simply, and unaccusingly as possible. A phrase I heard somewhere also helps: “Attack the problem, not the person.” And it’s good to avoid inflammatory statements or words like “always” and “never.”

That’s all easier said than done, and I have to admit I usually avoid it.

Question 4
(Poole’s book again) How would you define “freedom”? (This could probably be a bonus question).

Well, it doesn’t mean “doing anything I want whenever I want to do it.” That seems to be the way most people think of it, but even in the freest country in the world, one can’t live without some kinds of rules. Spiritually I think it means freedom from oppressive requirements and rituals in order to be right with God, freedom from sin and guilt though faith in Christ’s sacrifice for our sins, and freedom to do what He wants us to do by His power.

Question 5
(Poole’s book) On a scale of 1-10, how happy do you usually feel? Explain.

I guess that depends on what you mean by happy. I am quick to laugh and see the funny side of things, but I am not a “life of the party” type. I can be a perfectionist, which means a lot of frustration. I can be downright cranky. I don’t know — maybe a 7 generally? I never know how to put numbers on these things.

Question 6
If you could choose one “SIN” that you would never have to struggle with for the rest of your life what would it be?

Selfishness. That manifests itself in so many forms — pride, self-seeking, lack of self-control.

Question 7
What is one thing that breaks your heart?

Lost people trying to live without the Lord’s comfort and help and heading toward an awful end.

Show and Tell Friday: Valentine’s Day decorations and dinner

Show and Tell Kelli at There’s No Place Like Home hosts “Show and Tell Friday” asking Do you have a something special to share with us? It could be a trinket from grade school, a piece of jewelry, an antique find. Your show and tell can be old or new. Use your imagination and dig through those old boxes in your closet if you have to! Feel free to share pictures and if there’s a story behind your special something, that’s even better! If you would like to join in, all you have to do is post your “Show and Tell” on your blog, copy the post link, come over here and add it to Mr. Linky. Guidelines are here.“

With all the hearts and pink roses around my house, you could say it looks like Valentine’s Day all the time. 🙂 But there are a few special things I put out for the day this year.

This is a wreath that I usually have on my door around Valentine’s Day, though I have it up at other times, too.

Heart wreath

I didn’t make it. I found it at a good price at Target a few years ago. Seems like it was around $15 or so. I think it has faded a little bit — there used to be more pink in it. But I still like it.

When I mentioned this table in a previous Show and Tell, I mentioned that I wanted to put little seasonal vignettes there.

Valentine's vignette

These two Boyd’s Bear figurines go along with the holiday.

Valentine Boyd's Bear

Valentine Boyd's

This little tray I found just yesterday at Target. I decided to put some of my heart-shaped buttons, charms, etc. on it.

Buttons

Buttons

Tray with heart shaped buttons, etc.

Most of the things there are leftover from various craft projects. I think I got most of the buttons from Michael’s. The little crocheted hearts and pink dotted hearts and several of the charms I got at Speckled Egg’s shop.

I saw a better example of a doily garland yesterday, and I thought I had bookmarked it, but I can’t find it now. I had a few heart shaped paper doilies on hand and gave it a try.

Heart doiley garland

Some may remember seeing something similar to this last year at our church’s ladies’ luncheon. I saved some of the leftover favors and made a bouquet out of them.

Centerpiece

We place each person’s Valentine above their plate and open them before we eat.

Valentines

This was our main dish for dinner. Those little shapes are supposed to look like hearts.

Valentine casserole

It’s called Crescent Heart-Topped Lasagna Casserole. I was delighted to find a Valentiney main dish — it’s easy to find desserts, but a little harder to find a Valentine entree. I couldn’t find the mini lasagna noodles called for at the store I was in and didn’t have time this week to check other places, so I just broke up lasagna noodles into small pieces.

And this was our dessert.

Valentine's dessert

It’s just from a cake mix with store-bought frosting. Cakes aren’t my best things. 🙂 But everyone likes these.

Overall we had a very nice day!

Your Divine Valentine

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A Valentine may play a love song for you, but God sings you the sweetest love song in the universe.
The Lord your God…will rejoice over you with gladness, He will quiet you with His love, He will rejoice over you with singing. ~Zephaniah 3:17

A Valentine may give you flowers, but God sent you the most beautiful rose of all, Jesus.
I am the rose of Sharon, and the lily of the valleys. ~Song of Solomon 2:1

A Valentine may take you out to dinner,but God has invited you to the most amazing feast ever given.
Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb! ~Revelation 19:9

A Valentine may bring you chocolate, but God provides you with something even sweeter, His Word.
How sweet are your words to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth! ~Psalm 119:103

A Valentine may be far away, but God is always with you.
I am with you always. ~Matthew 28:20

A Valentine may give you something, but God has given you everything.
God…..gives us richly all things to enjoy. ~1 Timothy 6:17

A Valentine may love you for a lifetime, but God loved you before you were born and will love you for all eternity!
Yes, I have loved you with an everlasting love…with lovingkindness I have drawn you. ~Jeremiah 31:3

Happy Valentine’s Day!
(Author unknown)

Love songs and chick flicks…

…make for warm fuzzy Valentiney feelings. 🙂

I posted this last year but I have been wanting to post it again. The music is from the Irish Tenors CD Heritage. Unfortunately whoever made this clip cut the song off abruptly at the end, but it’s still nice.